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| Langox510x wrote: | | ^^^Why not invade WMD holding Israel? |
Because they aren't batshit insane like North Korea and Iran and they don't display a willingness to use them as Saddam did. Simply put, Israel isn't a threat to global security, peace and prosperity.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| josh45 wrote: | | Langox510x wrote: | | ^^^Why not invade WMD holding Israel? |
Because they aren't batshit insane like North Korea and Iran and they don't display a willingness to use them as Saddam did. Simply put, Israel isn't a threat to global security, peace and prosperity. |
Since when is Iran a "batshit insane" country? When did they become a threat to global security, peace and prosperity?
Tell me, what exactly has Iran done? |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| Newvamp wrote: | | Israel did perfectly fine before we gave them aid. |
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josh45
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| Ju87s wrote: | | josh45 wrote: | | Langox510x wrote: | | ^^^Why not invade WMD holding Israel? |
Because they aren't batshit insane like North Korea and Iran and they don't display a willingness to use them as Saddam did. Simply put, Israel isn't a threat to global security, peace and prosperity. |
Since when is Iran a "batshit insane" country? When did they become a threat to global security, peace and prosperity? |
When it became a dictatorship run by religious extremists who routinely threaten the west.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| josh45 wrote: | | Ju87s wrote: | | josh45 wrote: | | Langox510x wrote: | | ^^^Why not invade WMD holding Israel? |
Because they aren't batshit insane like North Korea and Iran and they don't display a willingness to use them as Saddam did. Simply put, Israel isn't a threat to global security, peace and prosperity. |
Since when is Iran a "batshit insane" country? When did they become a threat to global security, peace and prosperity? |
When it became a dictatorship run by religious extremists who routinely threaten the west. |
Go on.. What are these threats?
I find the "religious extremist" part really funny, when compared to the leaders in the West and israel. Talk about extreme views. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Th33w0kRap15t wrote: | | Newvamp wrote: | | Israel did perfectly fine before we gave them aid. |
I havnt been really involved in this thread but this statement I find pretty funny. |
There was the Arab-Israeli war. No aid. There was the 6 day war. No aid. There was the war of Yom Kippur. Not a whole lot of aid, but they did get aid once Israel started to win and after that, I can agree with you. But now since Israel has a ton of forces, just getting close to Israel will harm our air force like none other.
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Th33w0kRap15t
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Newvamp wrote: | | Th33w0kRap15t wrote: | | Newvamp wrote: | | Israel did perfectly fine before we gave them aid. |
I havnt been really involved in this thread but this statement I find pretty funny. |
There was the Arab-Israeli war. No aid. There was the 6 day war. No aid. There was the war of Yom Kippur. Not a whole lot of aid, but they did get aid once Israel started to win and after that, I can agree with you. But now since Israel has a ton of forces, just getting close to Israel will harm our air force like none other. |
You really dont see the irony in this statement? Maybe you should look back a little further.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Th33w0kRap15t wrote: | | Newvamp wrote: | | Th33w0kRap15t wrote: | | Newvamp wrote: | | Israel did perfectly fine before we gave them aid. |
I havnt been really involved in this thread but this statement I find pretty funny. |
There was the Arab-Israeli war. No aid. There was the 6 day war. No aid. There was the war of Yom Kippur. Not a whole lot of aid, but they did get aid once Israel started to win and after that, I can agree with you. But now since Israel has a ton of forces, just getting close to Israel will harm our air force like none other. |
You really dont see the irony in this statement? Maybe you should look back a little further. |
Yeah... in which case, the Muslims also got Aid from the British.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Newvamp wrote: | | Th33w0kRap15t wrote: | | Newvamp wrote: | | Th33w0kRap15t wrote: | | Newvamp wrote: | | Israel did perfectly fine before we gave them aid. |
I havnt been really involved in this thread but this statement I find pretty funny. |
There was the Arab-Israeli war. No aid. There was the 6 day war. No aid. There was the war of Yom Kippur. Not a whole lot of aid, but they did get aid once Israel started to win and after that, I can agree with you. But now since Israel has a ton of forces, just getting close to Israel will harm our air force like none other. |
You really dont see the irony in this statement? Maybe you should look back a little further. |
Yeah... in which case, the Muslims also got Aid from the British. |
Nevermind.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| Th33w0kRap15t wrote: | | Newvamp wrote: | | Th33w0kRap15t wrote: | | Newvamp wrote: | | Th33w0kRap15t wrote: | | Newvamp wrote: | | Israel did perfectly fine before we gave them aid. |
I havnt been really involved in this thread but this statement I find pretty funny. |
There was the Arab-Israeli war. No aid. There was the 6 day war. No aid. There was the war of Yom Kippur. Not a whole lot of aid, but they did get aid once Israel started to win and after that, I can agree with you. But now since Israel has a ton of forces, just getting close to Israel will harm our air force like none other. |
You really dont see the irony in this statement? Maybe you should look back a little further. |
Yeah... in which case, the Muslims also got Aid from the British. |
Nevermind. |
Are you talking about the irony that they use American Jets?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Newvamp wrote: | | There was the war of Yom Kippur. Not a whole lot of aid, but they did get aid once Israel started to win and after that, I can agree with you. |
You are wrong.
The Yom Kippur War would have ended in a nuclear holocaust and perhaps even WWIII, had the US not stepped in and given the Israelis A LOT of aid.
Only after receiving US aid during the war, did the Israelis have a chance to fight back and actually win the war. Before the US stepped in, things looked very bad for Israel.
Look at Wikipedia if you want more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War
| Quote: | On the afternoon of October 7, an alarmed Dayan told Meir that "this is the end of the third temple". He was warning of Israel's impending total defeat, but "Temple" was also the code word for nuclear weapons.[110] Dayan again raised the nuclear topic in a cabinet meeting, warning that the country was approaching a point of "last resort."[111]
Meir on 8 October authorized the assembling of 13 20-kiloton-of-TNT (84 TJ) atomic bombs. Nuclear-capable Jericho missiles at Hirbat Zachariah and F-4s at Tel Nof were prepared for action against Syrian and Egyptian targets;[110] the preparation was done in an easily detectable way, likely as a signal to the United States.[111] Kissinger learned of the nuclear alert on the morning of October 9. That day, President Nixon ordered the commencement of Operation Nickel Grass, an American airlift to replace all of Israel's material losses.[112] Anecdotal evidence suggests that Kissinger told Sadat that the reason for the U.S. airlift was that the Israelis were close to "going nuclear."[110]
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I am Jewish, I am Pro Israel.
When another country, regardless of who it is, has a hatred towards another country because of a religious difference or political etc....you don't try to wipe them off the face of the map.
It is just a matter of time before Iran does get the bomb, when Israel has enough intel, trust me, it will be dealt with.
What bothers me would be the outcome thereafter, economy wise, just a good enough of an excuse to stop oil production. |
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| MUC wrote: | | Newvamp wrote: | | There was the war of Yom Kippur. Not a whole lot of aid, but they did get aid once Israel started to win and after that, I can agree with you. |
You are wrong.
The Yom Kippur War would have ended in a nuclear holocaust and perhaps even WWIII, had the US not stepped in and given the Israelis A LOT of aid.
Only after receiving US aid during the war, did the Israelis have a chance to fight back and actually win the war. Before the US stepped in, things looked very bad for Israel.
Look at Wikipedia if you want more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War
| Quote: | On the afternoon of October 7, an alarmed Dayan told Meir that "this is the end of the third temple". He was warning of Israel's impending total defeat, but "Temple" was also the code word for nuclear weapons.[110] Dayan again raised the nuclear topic in a cabinet meeting, warning that the country was approaching a point of "last resort."[111]
Meir on 8 October authorized the assembling of 13 20-kiloton-of-TNT (84 TJ) atomic bombs. Nuclear-capable Jericho missiles at Hirbat Zachariah and F-4s at Tel Nof were prepared for action against Syrian and Egyptian targets;[110] the preparation was done in an easily detectable way, likely as a signal to the United States.[111] Kissinger learned of the nuclear alert on the morning of October 9. That day, President Nixon ordered the commencement of Operation Nickel Grass, an American airlift to replace all of Israel's material losses.[112] Anecdotal evidence suggests that Kissinger told Sadat that the reason for the U.S. airlift was that the Israelis were close to "going nuclear."[110]
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I hate breaking silence just to correct this kind of shit.
Israel mobilized the reserves and had driven deep into Egypt and Syria before the US airlifted the first supplies. They were fighting multiple fronts and the combined supply chains of Iran, Kuwait, Libya, Saudi, Syria, Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, Jordan and the evil hand of the Soviet Union. Not exactly a fair match. But who cares - they are just a bunch of Jews.
You can say a lot about Israel - but never that they can't fight their own battles.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | . Not exactly a fair match |
I'm glad Israel won the war. I think Arabs need to accept the fact that the Israeli's are there to stay. But generally speaking wars are never fought fairly.
Initially American leaders expected the tide of the war to quickly shift in favor of the better-equipped IDF and that Arab armies would be completely defeated within 72 to 96 hours.American supplies to Israel until then had consisted of ammunition, particularly AT and AA ammunition.It became clear however by October 9 that no such quick reversal would occur, and that IDF losses were unexpectedly high.
I give Israel all the credit in the world for beating back three armies that launched a surprise attack that is nothing short of amazing. But ultimately I don't think it would happened without them starting off with our technology and our emergency replacement of material losses http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Nickel_Grass which allowed sustainability for them. |
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